I’m generally with you, Jamie, on the cosmology/epistemology, but methinks you a bit disregulated over the election and reading too much into its abductive conclusions. What if the election was no change really and there are forces unseen and possibly unknowable with our cognitive/linguistic apparatus that are antifragile to the chaos bomb you perceive. What if what looks like chaos is really just the extropic chasm between Level 1 and Level 2 on the spiral? There’s no way to know at this point, but all will be resolved soon enough. And if so, then indeed it was inevitable/inexorable in its coming. It’s an incredible time to be alive.
you say abductive, I say potato. Your fuzzy appeal to unseen and unknowable forces suggests that what's plainly observable and falsifiable doesn't fit the story you'd like to be in? Not saying there aren't unforeseen plot twists ahead. Am saying that from the limited visibility of where we are now, a bunch of people made an electoral choice that required backbends, contortions and distortions to justify. We're more or less on the "let's break shit and see what happens" timeline. But if you're into wheels within wheels apophenia, here's a really good one about what's REALLY going on https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/a-tale-of-two-psyops
Or maybe the collective has an unconscious addiction to drama and chaos. It's the fuel source they've grown accustomed to. Peace, creativity and harmony actually require more introspection and work to get to the good stuff, it's a slower path, not always instant gratification. Drama and chaos have been inadvertently woven into the collective conscious via stories of "one true hero kicking many collective butts with no real repercussions" so often replayed, ad nauseam, in films and series. Real drama and chaos often disrupts brain function and physiology, which we don't ever see played out in said storylines. As I see it, we're in for another reversed step evolution over the next 4 years, or at least a long drawn out pause. I just wonder why we still seem to have to learn from chaos/drama when our intelligence via our imaginations lets us play out all possible outcomes. Co-operation is always the better choice. But then, as a musician and in general creative, harmony and cooperation are essential components.
I appreciate your insights Jamie. Always healthy food for thought. Keep 'em coming. Peace.
I think there is a bigger play afoot as well. One that came to mind is my old buddy Hegel and dialectics, a concept I keep seeking to understand, as the more I learn the less I know. In this case the thesis, antithesis, synthesis pendulum. The weird thing question is where all this is currently landing?, where is the synthesis? Is it the classic middle? kind of like the moral majority of old? or is it, as the outcome of this election suggests, what was once the extreme now the "mega majority"?, and then, with this the new status quo, where does it all go from here? My guess it will be one of those "Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore"... twilight zones.
Maybe the point is that we're not supposed to know any of these things. Maybe we're just here to experience things, to try stuff out and then decide if we like them or not. I'm not saying I like that idea in the sense of the larger world, but I like it for my personal life. Say I just ran out of gas because I wasn't paying attention to the gas guage (I don't have an EV). Maybe I'm not an idiot, I just chose the experience of running out gas to see what would happen. It's easy to think we chose something when we like the results. More challenging to do so when we don't - just a concept I've been playing with lately.
Before the DTE or Distance to Empty feture in my vehicle, I used to run out of gas a lot. It is a running joke with my family. I have great stories that I retell about my running out of gas. My motivation was some sort of maximize the current tank and stop to fill only when you need to kinda logic. I still sort of have it, I like to see how close to 0 in the DTE monitor I can get until I fill up. I'm less compulsive about it but its still a thing coming to me from somewhere.
Thanks Jamie. I enjoyed the community call yesterday, my first. Again, not sure why I do not get notified via email when you make a post here on Substack, I get them from others I subscribe to here. I will have to just remember to go search for you - which by the way, you have two profiles here on Substack, you might want to delete one of them.
As to the Russian connection you mentioned yesterday, I put this in the chat but you may want to visit the five volume "Project Russia" (2005-2011) which Putin made mandatory reading for all his leadership. The first english translation came out and there is a summary of it. It lays out his vision, and so far, he does not need to worry about transition from one regime to the other, he has continuity in execution of his vision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Russia
Jamie, when is the complexity book coming out? I'm quite interested to hear a bit more about how you brought the concept of dissipative structures and energy gradients into the hypothesis you've been building about the Omega point.
For me, this brings up the eternal question "Our transgressions and our sins are heavy upon us, and we are wasting away because of them. How then shall we live?"
Somehow, I pondered it differently before the essay/election, and after. If there are still choices, prepare for survival, if there are no choices, party like it's 1999? ( if it is as fundamental as the laws of thermodynamics, perhaps there were never choices, but in the short term looking at what to do with the money in my retirement account, sure feels like there are choices.)
Fucking Brilliant Jamie! This post landed me at wondering what the hell is creativity and generative organic intelligence? Like, what are scientists like Einstein drawing from to ‘discover’ new areas of mathematics that are part of the ‘fabric’? How might we tap into this, innovate our way towards more serenity as we hurtle towards entropy?! Hmmmmm……
I’m generally with you, Jamie, on the cosmology/epistemology, but methinks you a bit disregulated over the election and reading too much into its abductive conclusions. What if the election was no change really and there are forces unseen and possibly unknowable with our cognitive/linguistic apparatus that are antifragile to the chaos bomb you perceive. What if what looks like chaos is really just the extropic chasm between Level 1 and Level 2 on the spiral? There’s no way to know at this point, but all will be resolved soon enough. And if so, then indeed it was inevitable/inexorable in its coming. It’s an incredible time to be alive.
you say abductive, I say potato. Your fuzzy appeal to unseen and unknowable forces suggests that what's plainly observable and falsifiable doesn't fit the story you'd like to be in? Not saying there aren't unforeseen plot twists ahead. Am saying that from the limited visibility of where we are now, a bunch of people made an electoral choice that required backbends, contortions and distortions to justify. We're more or less on the "let's break shit and see what happens" timeline. But if you're into wheels within wheels apophenia, here's a really good one about what's REALLY going on https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/a-tale-of-two-psyops
Or maybe the collective has an unconscious addiction to drama and chaos. It's the fuel source they've grown accustomed to. Peace, creativity and harmony actually require more introspection and work to get to the good stuff, it's a slower path, not always instant gratification. Drama and chaos have been inadvertently woven into the collective conscious via stories of "one true hero kicking many collective butts with no real repercussions" so often replayed, ad nauseam, in films and series. Real drama and chaos often disrupts brain function and physiology, which we don't ever see played out in said storylines. As I see it, we're in for another reversed step evolution over the next 4 years, or at least a long drawn out pause. I just wonder why we still seem to have to learn from chaos/drama when our intelligence via our imaginations lets us play out all possible outcomes. Co-operation is always the better choice. But then, as a musician and in general creative, harmony and cooperation are essential components.
I appreciate your insights Jamie. Always healthy food for thought. Keep 'em coming. Peace.
"Gender politics" - the game has been rigged for us guys for a long time. https://medium.com/@jylterps/gender-wars-patriarchy-misogyny-and-sexism-set-the-battlefield-can-men-and-women-make-peace-6077a60b3a55
Grateful for the provocation, holding this inquiry/challenge with curiosity. Contemplating the image of Kali.
Your words make me think of the Trickster.
Gary Snyder, a true costonian of this marble of madness
Nature is cyclical, not progressive or linear.
he says with utter certainty...
I think there is a bigger play afoot as well. One that came to mind is my old buddy Hegel and dialectics, a concept I keep seeking to understand, as the more I learn the less I know. In this case the thesis, antithesis, synthesis pendulum. The weird thing question is where all this is currently landing?, where is the synthesis? Is it the classic middle? kind of like the moral majority of old? or is it, as the outcome of this election suggests, what was once the extreme now the "mega majority"?, and then, with this the new status quo, where does it all go from here? My guess it will be one of those "Toto, I don't think we are in Kansas anymore"... twilight zones.
Maybe the point is that we're not supposed to know any of these things. Maybe we're just here to experience things, to try stuff out and then decide if we like them or not. I'm not saying I like that idea in the sense of the larger world, but I like it for my personal life. Say I just ran out of gas because I wasn't paying attention to the gas guage (I don't have an EV). Maybe I'm not an idiot, I just chose the experience of running out gas to see what would happen. It's easy to think we chose something when we like the results. More challenging to do so when we don't - just a concept I've been playing with lately.
Before the DTE or Distance to Empty feture in my vehicle, I used to run out of gas a lot. It is a running joke with my family. I have great stories that I retell about my running out of gas. My motivation was some sort of maximize the current tank and stop to fill only when you need to kinda logic. I still sort of have it, I like to see how close to 0 in the DTE monitor I can get until I fill up. I'm less compulsive about it but its still a thing coming to me from somewhere.
Using Jamie's analogy about what America has just done, I like the late Cormac McCarthy's "Dismal Tide" descending darkness metaphor. https://medium.com/@jylterps/the-dismal-tide-dark-maga-descends-over-america-and-the-world-5e443ea80564
Thanks Jamie. I enjoyed the community call yesterday, my first. Again, not sure why I do not get notified via email when you make a post here on Substack, I get them from others I subscribe to here. I will have to just remember to go search for you - which by the way, you have two profiles here on Substack, you might want to delete one of them.
As to the Russian connection you mentioned yesterday, I put this in the chat but you may want to visit the five volume "Project Russia" (2005-2011) which Putin made mandatory reading for all his leadership. The first english translation came out and there is a summary of it. It lays out his vision, and so far, he does not need to worry about transition from one regime to the other, he has continuity in execution of his vision. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Russia
Good closer with Gary Snyder. Yes, we shall see.
Jamie, when is the complexity book coming out? I'm quite interested to hear a bit more about how you brought the concept of dissipative structures and energy gradients into the hypothesis you've been building about the Omega point.
For me, this brings up the eternal question "Our transgressions and our sins are heavy upon us, and we are wasting away because of them. How then shall we live?"
Somehow, I pondered it differently before the essay/election, and after. If there are still choices, prepare for survival, if there are no choices, party like it's 1999? ( if it is as fundamental as the laws of thermodynamics, perhaps there were never choices, but in the short term looking at what to do with the money in my retirement account, sure feels like there are choices.)
It will spiral out of control and we’ll all get blown off and it’ll be the beginning of another beginning. Or something. Death isn’t the end though.
Something about this article is disturbing, dissapointing and equally unconvincing.
Fucking Brilliant Jamie! This post landed me at wondering what the hell is creativity and generative organic intelligence? Like, what are scientists like Einstein drawing from to ‘discover’ new areas of mathematics that are part of the ‘fabric’? How might we tap into this, innovate our way towards more serenity as we hurtle towards entropy?! Hmmmmm……
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCpZ1cmPTjf/?igsh=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
Brilliant Jamie! Thank you for helping to come to grips with the Timeline we find oursleves in. So well put!
Jeez. Maybe 4 years of contemplating all you bring up will open some doors and maybe some minds. Thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2cjVhUrmII&ab_channel=dorune