There's a lot of important ideas packed in here. Obligate adaptation keeps making me think about "the tragedy of the commons." Whenever it's beneficial for an individual or group to use more of a common resource, and that common resource degrades from increased use. It's not the same thing, but there's a parallel. It's almost like obligate adaptation is a kind of "Tragedy of the Future Commons," where ruin is brought about sometime in the future by each party playing a strategy that they think will be necessary in games that haven't occurred yet. Maybe that's wrong. Thank you for this important thought-provoking piece Jamie.
yeah, I'm noodling on trying to find if Obligate Adaptations, Commons tragedies and multi-polar traps are all names for same, or there's a subtle hierarchy? Seems like Commons issues are a subset of MPTs, while obligate adaptations 'might' be the higher up category that includes them both? LMK what you think
Lately I’ve been a bit weaker in my knees when it comes to saving the world.
I’ve always been on team “we can do it”, but some days I wake up and feel more like that family in “Look Up” that fought the good fight, but finally just sat down to dinner with their family and friends.
Thanks for this call to action Jamie, and for still believing that there just might be a way forward. And it’s always nice to know Tanner is still in the fight to save us from ourselves.
How are you guys doing on the task of finding more people who are ready to pivot and help others to pivot? I feel like the protective armor is getting tougher to penetrate. And even if you can get their attention for a minute, there are just so many causes that seem to freeze folks and return them to their perceived safe bubble.
Sat down to write a mission statement for an idea that shows a path forward today and honestly thought… “Why am I doing this? Why do I care when the people I aim to help don’t seem to?”
Thinking big and knowing what hardship and sacrifices are involved in "saving" is inevitably interrupted by seductive thoughts of settling for less. Work your a** of for years, endure endless rejection and setbacks, sacrifice "savoring" the world, chase a moving goalpost, all for the slim chance of making a positive difference that nobody will even care about or understand? Or take the easy (normal) road and have a nice job, spend time with friends and family, and have a decent life. Nobody would fault you for the latter.
Airy-fairy motivational junk provides temporary false hope. To paraphrase Jim Collins' "The Stockdale Paradox," you must maintain unwavering faith that you can and will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties, and at the same time, have the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. The brutal fact is that the odds are not in your favor if you want to do something big and important.
I keep a few quotes engraved in wood on my desk, and maybe they'll help you too.
From Elon Musk: "When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor." What's at stake if you don't do that important thing?
From Steve Jobs: "The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do." Yes, you'll probably fail, but in order to have a big impact you have to be just delusional enough to think you'll succeed at your big thing.
From my dad: "The greatest risk is not that you will fail or make mistakes, but that you will run out of time." So get on it.
Well said Tanner… aaaaand don’t forget to savor it. If life is not worth savoring, then you wouldn’t feel called to save it.
Hilariously, life is going to be just fine with or without us little humans. On Sunday mornings like this one, with a delicious cup of coffee to sip on, I feel into the possibility that we are right on time and the symphony we are apart of is gorgeous.
Don’t forget to enjoy the ride while you’re on it friends.
I get your point Mike. I am finishing up an essay (I post on Medium not substack) about a startup looking to do just that. One of their advisors sent me a JW post here from Feb. I've been on the FGP distribution but no emails for this ST. So I have been reading a few, including this one. I can read all of them, but need to now remember to go find them.
Here's the thing about coming together: this work requires a reconciliation of old wounds, past harms, and appreciation for different realities, different priorities, different approaches for survival. What's required to hold this energy is stronger leadership. Liberatory leadership. The kind of leadership that teaches and expects sovereignty and agency within all beings. Many people are looking to women to take the helm but do not know or have interest in finding out what that requires. The major levers of change will be found in the interstitial spaces that allow adaptation of identity and mindset. Consent and boundaries are more important now than ever. We can welcome the shapeshifter inside all of us. Give permission to be destabilized. To shake and move without intellectual permission-giving. This is why it is such a good time to come out and be queer.
Jamie, thank you dear brother. While I most often find your words thought-provoking and insightful, times when what you write reaches down and grabs me by the gonads, and I am glad for it. Unashamed. It is a beautiful metaphorical trust to have a brother reach out and grab you by the balls, And say “pay attention motherfucker, there are portals/opportunities here, that beseech you to not give up. No matter the future, you can still touch with Love what was previously touched with fear.”
Maybe I’m reading too much into your words, but Jamie, for me, your words feel like a trellis… Something for my own thoughts to hold onto and then grow up on, and then reach from as I touch the world around me.
I am in the process of creating community along the lines of the ethical cults that you speak of in recapture the rapture. I was a bold and loving passionate pastor in the Christian movement, before I woke and saw that so many of the underlying values of that institution were contributing to the decline of the more beautiful world that I believe in.
I was an Episcopal priest and had been consecrated a bishop in the woods by other bishop and clergy who saw my ideas and felt my ideals and passion, and they knew that I would not be received within the framework of that institution. as leadership changed, I was removed as a heretic because I challenged the spiritual abuse that I saw that seemed underlie so much of the dysfunction of such an institution.
I am now ready to step in and begin a movement, very likely with feet on the ground here in Ashland Oregon. Choosing each day to speak in authentic truth beneath the veil of make up and gold glitter and the smiles of Instagram.
I share this with you to let you know that your words are not shallow in my soul. I find myself with deep gratitude that your words have come to me, and that they consistently move me.
I left my copy of recapture the rapture with a brother in the south Island of New Zealand last year. I am yearning for another copy so I will order one and review. Maybe I will listen to your Aubrey Marcus podcast again, that was so good. Three hours, but so good. Every hour you started a new topic that opened new vistas for me.
I support you brother and what you’re doing. Thank you for it.
sweet man. glad to hear it! FWIW, if you haven't already, the books that informed my relationship to the Nazarene the most in the past were Elaine Pagels Gnostic Gospels (and really anything she's written since) and Putting on the Mind of Christ which is good medicine for anyone "recovering" from orthodox religious instutions
Thanks for the book recommendations, Jamie. Much appreciated. Loved your interview on the After Skool podcast, btw. Listened this morning. You have a gift with your quick mind and entertaining wordsmith-ing in real time. You would probably make a great rap artist...
Hi Derek, I'm in Eugene. Would love to hear more about the community you are creating in Ashland, Love what you said about Jamie's words acting as a trellis - that is a perfect metaphor! I clearly need to read Jamie's Recapture the Rapture. I bought it on Kindle and never got around to reading it. I'm currently working full-time at a pretty awesome job overall, but man... how to carve out enough time to maintain home, garden, friendships, relationships, learn new skills, focus on resiliency, build community, engage with new ideas and courses and people and leave time for joy and mindfulness.... I'm feeling stretched pretty thin! I've seen a few writers I follow pitch over into Greek Orthodox Christianity (Paul Kingsnorth, Martin Shaw) and it's not for me. I appreciate the wild saints, desert fathers, iconography, ritual, etc. I just can't find my place in it as a woman. I'm more interested in spiritual science (ala Steiner, Seth Material, Law of One), esoteric mystery traditions, initiatory rites, mindfulness and movement. Once Burning Man went online, I sold my bus and have zero interest in returning (no offense to anyone who loves the social media prospects now - it's just a different vibe). Anyway, in the lunacy of these times, I have my little antennae up on Substack for like minds and hearts, and your comment struck a chord. Thanks for reading!
Absolutely Erin. And I so agree re the orthodoxy thing. I actually find that I cannot trust those people who move in closer to that center. They seem to have no ability to realize the toxicity of that movement. That may be harsh to say, but it is how I feel. When you can be so far in, and that deep, I do not know how close the line is for an interpretation to come out that says that that God told you that anyone who doesn’t agree with you, it’s OK to ostracize and even kill. And do not think that is a possibility, then they do not truly have empathy for the slippery slope that many have lived on for so long, Trying to express their devotion within community to demonstrate that they are committed to the purpose.. We have gone to such broken lengths to demonstrate this.
Erin, I would be delighted to engage further. My number is 715-220-6122, and I am so happy to engage with any people who are desiring to move to these other golden threads beyond the gold Gilded cages of what we formerly constructed. Please reach out at anytime, and I would certainly welcome it. I will try to post a link to my writing on regenerative intimacy, yet I am only scratching the surface of what I’m bringing to the world. I am so ripe and ready. And waiting to listen to love, and sometimes I just go out in love regardless
What a beautiful, thoughtful and welcome reply - deep gratitude for your good heart, Derek. I'm tucking your number in my old phone right now. Thank you.
Also, last year, Paul Kingsnorth… Who’s writing had previously inspired me, took a turn for blindly following the orthodoxy. I challenged him royally, and I told him that I was losing trust. While I appreciate his authenticity, I challenged his alignment. I hope I have friends that are close enough to me, they will do the same for me if they feel it’s needed.
I'm heartened to hear that you challenged Paul. Hopefully he was able to engage with your questioning in a thoughtful and respectful way. Constructive feedback is so important, and there is an art to receiving it in a grounded, healthy manner.
Yes, Paul went from post-modern environmentalism, gave up on it 10 years ago with his "Dark Ecology", and has now concluded everything went off the rails with the Enlightenment - reason and rationality and what we now really need is the church of traditionalism. His short summation of the way forward is place, people, prayer. Those are fine, but they will at best, form a small community, now if these can convene all around the world, then we've got it licked.
The question is basically how can we reach the masses with the experiences necessary to change their way of thinking to one of synergy and co-creation with all of humanity.
In your book "Recapture the Rapture" you already wrote about the type of communities we need in order for that to happen. Though creating those communities is hard work. I´ve lost most of my friends after reading your book. And now I´m with two friends who are into that, but it´s really hard to get momentum.
Thanks for this wonderful piece :) Keep up the great work. Your book was definitely a game-changer.
I´ve tried to bring the ideas of the book into the "tribe" I had back then. This made me realise that we have completely different perspectives (e.g. the meaning of life) and willingness to explore the space you talk about. It wasn´t nearly as strong of a bond as I believed we had.
Like you talk about this space of emergence (and growth), where there are no rules and basically anything can happen - including triggers. I always expressed it when it felt "fake" to me, when it felt like we are just letting the cultural imprint take charge. My friends preferred a space of "harmony", which I didn´t really feel with them, there was so much emerging inside of me which didn´t seem to have a place within the group. So I kind of became the black sheep in the group and got ostracized.
It´s definitely not your books fault. It was either the way I tried to bring in those ideas or simply the fact that the ones I called my friends where at a different stage. Your book definitely helped me to find people I can do the stuff from your book with. The sexual yoga of becoming is a game-changer.
Currently working on a project to make some if not all things you talk about in the book "cool" to young people. You´re probably of the biggest influences on everything I wanna do.
I feel you in this. Much resonance all around. A particular passion, and role that I am choosing is to create one of these new ethical cults that @jamie talks about. There is a revolution inside of me, fueled by many of the things that Jamie writes about here. And that many of us are dealing with. I continue to wait and listen, while at the same time being perched and ready with the gifting that I contain, and the passion in my bones, and a song in my heart. The Revolution I’m bringing is a bit ooey and gooey and chewy; and I do not want to simply wait on the sidelines until I think it will be perfect. I do not want to rush in where fools fear to tread, and at the same time I listen every day to my own intuition and as best I can, to the soul song of the Earth around me.
In my own writing here, under the topic of regenerative intimacy, I try to touch on some of these things and my own poetic way, trying to bring resonance if not sense, to the broth in the cauldron in which we are seeping.
Thank you for your words here. I would be happy to connect regarding some of these topics, especially in the recapture the rapture book, as I dream and act. Communication on this particular platform is not great. My number is +17152206122. I welcome such connection, should you have interest.
Obligate adaptation indeed! Simple minds like simple solutions and hardcore egos never think outside the box of their own fixed tribal identifications. I’m traveling around Provence at the moment with my wife and we were approached by a Frenchman at a restaurant who wanted to share his political views with us Americans. He wasn’t a big Trump fan but he was certain that Biden was a puppet of Obama who is secretly controlling the entire agenda of the Dems. This guys main concerns centered around excessive immigration which he said were as damaging in France as in the US.
The principal lesson or “obligate adaptation” of this time is simply that we are ALL in the same boat and must create a truly global cooperative order if we are to survive and overcome the critical social, economic and environmental crisis’ that we have created. Instead of trying to blame “the other” with cockamamie conspiracy theories to perpetuate the entirety obsolete social-political games that you have outlined so well in your other posts.
Oh so the solution to not shuffling off the mortal coil of humanity is to come together? Like some big collective John Lennon pide piper moment? When have we ever in the history of humans done than?
At this stage what I observe is the inevitable move towards a chrysalis moment of transformation where humans emerge out into the world a new species. Humanoid AI connected to the cloud transporting our consciousness to the vast outer reaches of space, wanting our tribe to get there first, because if we don’t they will, and we want to be calling the shots when we get there.
Or I just convert full time to Catholicism and rest back into the bliss of service at a local level and sigh “I am enough”.
I must have read this wrong because I thought OA was a good thing that led us to evolve as humans walking and growing food and expanding in new ways. So I was wondering if the new thing that was being asked of us humans was to eat dinner with our family, do ethical cult-building, enjoy and care for nature, and simply love and live life. This seemed to me to be the new option rather than simply following the masses and collective.
I often think of the butterfly before it flies, all mixed up in the soup of imaginal cells. Somehow it becomes a new thing. I see humanity in this soup today, all mixed up in a mess of seemingly chaotic disasters, trauma, fear, and confusion. And I sense we will fly or become something new in the end of whatever change we are going thru.
But what if this is simply evolution at work and we are asked to step out and away into the savanna or to plant some seeds for our loved ones.
What if we cannot educate the masses, fix the messes, or change the collective trajectory? Maybe this old way is moving toward the dust heap of history as you said, Jamie.
What if our task is really to come home to Self and loved ones and connect on a deeper level?
Hey Jamie. Here’s something else I’ve been working on. It’s a tall drink of water,so be forewarned. I’m wondering if you have an appreciation for it, regardless of whether you’re drawn to it at all. I would value your thoughts
“I don’t get mine until you get yours” this statement guides our actions over at Save A Warrior. We are carving our own microcosm of the type of behaviours that might takes us all back from the edge, but quite honestly we make sure we are first fit for service first. What’s the adage? Clean up, grow up show up? I remember you talking about this Jamie a while back.
Never loose hope. Avoid the Nihilism pits, as tempting as they are to look at (like a car crash), and never forget the cosmic joke, this has all played out before a thousand times, we just suffer from cosmic amnesia, I guess?
There's a lot of important ideas packed in here. Obligate adaptation keeps making me think about "the tragedy of the commons." Whenever it's beneficial for an individual or group to use more of a common resource, and that common resource degrades from increased use. It's not the same thing, but there's a parallel. It's almost like obligate adaptation is a kind of "Tragedy of the Future Commons," where ruin is brought about sometime in the future by each party playing a strategy that they think will be necessary in games that haven't occurred yet. Maybe that's wrong. Thank you for this important thought-provoking piece Jamie.
yeah, I'm noodling on trying to find if Obligate Adaptations, Commons tragedies and multi-polar traps are all names for same, or there's a subtle hierarchy? Seems like Commons issues are a subset of MPTs, while obligate adaptations 'might' be the higher up category that includes them both? LMK what you think
Ugh fellas!
Lately I’ve been a bit weaker in my knees when it comes to saving the world.
I’ve always been on team “we can do it”, but some days I wake up and feel more like that family in “Look Up” that fought the good fight, but finally just sat down to dinner with their family and friends.
Thanks for this call to action Jamie, and for still believing that there just might be a way forward. And it’s always nice to know Tanner is still in the fight to save us from ourselves.
How are you guys doing on the task of finding more people who are ready to pivot and help others to pivot? I feel like the protective armor is getting tougher to penetrate. And even if you can get their attention for a minute, there are just so many causes that seem to freeze folks and return them to their perceived safe bubble.
Sat down to write a mission statement for an idea that shows a path forward today and honestly thought… “Why am I doing this? Why do I care when the people I aim to help don’t seem to?”
Looking for the light.
"once in a while you can get shown the light (in the strangest of places, if you look at it right ;)"
Mike, I completely understand.
Thinking big and knowing what hardship and sacrifices are involved in "saving" is inevitably interrupted by seductive thoughts of settling for less. Work your a** of for years, endure endless rejection and setbacks, sacrifice "savoring" the world, chase a moving goalpost, all for the slim chance of making a positive difference that nobody will even care about or understand? Or take the easy (normal) road and have a nice job, spend time with friends and family, and have a decent life. Nobody would fault you for the latter.
Airy-fairy motivational junk provides temporary false hope. To paraphrase Jim Collins' "The Stockdale Paradox," you must maintain unwavering faith that you can and will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties, and at the same time, have the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. The brutal fact is that the odds are not in your favor if you want to do something big and important.
I keep a few quotes engraved in wood on my desk, and maybe they'll help you too.
From Elon Musk: "When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor." What's at stake if you don't do that important thing?
From Steve Jobs: "The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do." Yes, you'll probably fail, but in order to have a big impact you have to be just delusional enough to think you'll succeed at your big thing.
From my dad: "The greatest risk is not that you will fail or make mistakes, but that you will run out of time." So get on it.
We're all going to die – very soon.
Die trying. What's the alternative?
Well said Tanner… aaaaand don’t forget to savor it. If life is not worth savoring, then you wouldn’t feel called to save it.
Hilariously, life is going to be just fine with or without us little humans. On Sunday mornings like this one, with a delicious cup of coffee to sip on, I feel into the possibility that we are right on time and the symphony we are apart of is gorgeous.
Don’t forget to enjoy the ride while you’re on it friends.
Thanks men!
Oh you saw a way forward in that piece Mike? I must have missed that one!
I get your point Mike. I am finishing up an essay (I post on Medium not substack) about a startup looking to do just that. One of their advisors sent me a JW post here from Feb. I've been on the FGP distribution but no emails for this ST. So I have been reading a few, including this one. I can read all of them, but need to now remember to go find them.
Here's the thing about coming together: this work requires a reconciliation of old wounds, past harms, and appreciation for different realities, different priorities, different approaches for survival. What's required to hold this energy is stronger leadership. Liberatory leadership. The kind of leadership that teaches and expects sovereignty and agency within all beings. Many people are looking to women to take the helm but do not know or have interest in finding out what that requires. The major levers of change will be found in the interstitial spaces that allow adaptation of identity and mindset. Consent and boundaries are more important now than ever. We can welcome the shapeshifter inside all of us. Give permission to be destabilized. To shake and move without intellectual permission-giving. This is why it is such a good time to come out and be queer.
Jamie, thank you dear brother. While I most often find your words thought-provoking and insightful, times when what you write reaches down and grabs me by the gonads, and I am glad for it. Unashamed. It is a beautiful metaphorical trust to have a brother reach out and grab you by the balls, And say “pay attention motherfucker, there are portals/opportunities here, that beseech you to not give up. No matter the future, you can still touch with Love what was previously touched with fear.”
Maybe I’m reading too much into your words, but Jamie, for me, your words feel like a trellis… Something for my own thoughts to hold onto and then grow up on, and then reach from as I touch the world around me.
I am in the process of creating community along the lines of the ethical cults that you speak of in recapture the rapture. I was a bold and loving passionate pastor in the Christian movement, before I woke and saw that so many of the underlying values of that institution were contributing to the decline of the more beautiful world that I believe in.
I was an Episcopal priest and had been consecrated a bishop in the woods by other bishop and clergy who saw my ideas and felt my ideals and passion, and they knew that I would not be received within the framework of that institution. as leadership changed, I was removed as a heretic because I challenged the spiritual abuse that I saw that seemed underlie so much of the dysfunction of such an institution.
I am now ready to step in and begin a movement, very likely with feet on the ground here in Ashland Oregon. Choosing each day to speak in authentic truth beneath the veil of make up and gold glitter and the smiles of Instagram.
I share this with you to let you know that your words are not shallow in my soul. I find myself with deep gratitude that your words have come to me, and that they consistently move me.
I left my copy of recapture the rapture with a brother in the south Island of New Zealand last year. I am yearning for another copy so I will order one and review. Maybe I will listen to your Aubrey Marcus podcast again, that was so good. Three hours, but so good. Every hour you started a new topic that opened new vistas for me.
I support you brother and what you’re doing. Thank you for it.
sweet man. glad to hear it! FWIW, if you haven't already, the books that informed my relationship to the Nazarene the most in the past were Elaine Pagels Gnostic Gospels (and really anything she's written since) and Putting on the Mind of Christ which is good medicine for anyone "recovering" from orthodox religious instutions
Thanks for the book recommendations, Jamie. Much appreciated. Loved your interview on the After Skool podcast, btw. Listened this morning. You have a gift with your quick mind and entertaining wordsmith-ing in real time. You would probably make a great rap artist...
Hi Derek, I'm in Eugene. Would love to hear more about the community you are creating in Ashland, Love what you said about Jamie's words acting as a trellis - that is a perfect metaphor! I clearly need to read Jamie's Recapture the Rapture. I bought it on Kindle and never got around to reading it. I'm currently working full-time at a pretty awesome job overall, but man... how to carve out enough time to maintain home, garden, friendships, relationships, learn new skills, focus on resiliency, build community, engage with new ideas and courses and people and leave time for joy and mindfulness.... I'm feeling stretched pretty thin! I've seen a few writers I follow pitch over into Greek Orthodox Christianity (Paul Kingsnorth, Martin Shaw) and it's not for me. I appreciate the wild saints, desert fathers, iconography, ritual, etc. I just can't find my place in it as a woman. I'm more interested in spiritual science (ala Steiner, Seth Material, Law of One), esoteric mystery traditions, initiatory rites, mindfulness and movement. Once Burning Man went online, I sold my bus and have zero interest in returning (no offense to anyone who loves the social media prospects now - it's just a different vibe). Anyway, in the lunacy of these times, I have my little antennae up on Substack for like minds and hearts, and your comment struck a chord. Thanks for reading!
Absolutely Erin. And I so agree re the orthodoxy thing. I actually find that I cannot trust those people who move in closer to that center. They seem to have no ability to realize the toxicity of that movement. That may be harsh to say, but it is how I feel. When you can be so far in, and that deep, I do not know how close the line is for an interpretation to come out that says that that God told you that anyone who doesn’t agree with you, it’s OK to ostracize and even kill. And do not think that is a possibility, then they do not truly have empathy for the slippery slope that many have lived on for so long, Trying to express their devotion within community to demonstrate that they are committed to the purpose.. We have gone to such broken lengths to demonstrate this.
Erin, I would be delighted to engage further. My number is 715-220-6122, and I am so happy to engage with any people who are desiring to move to these other golden threads beyond the gold Gilded cages of what we formerly constructed. Please reach out at anytime, and I would certainly welcome it. I will try to post a link to my writing on regenerative intimacy, yet I am only scratching the surface of what I’m bringing to the world. I am so ripe and ready. And waiting to listen to love, and sometimes I just go out in love regardless
What a beautiful, thoughtful and welcome reply - deep gratitude for your good heart, Derek. I'm tucking your number in my old phone right now. Thank you.
Here’s my Substack link …
https://open.substack.com/pub/regenerativeintimacy?r=x07rn&utm_medium=ios
Also, last year, Paul Kingsnorth… Who’s writing had previously inspired me, took a turn for blindly following the orthodoxy. I challenged him royally, and I told him that I was losing trust. While I appreciate his authenticity, I challenged his alignment. I hope I have friends that are close enough to me, they will do the same for me if they feel it’s needed.
I'm heartened to hear that you challenged Paul. Hopefully he was able to engage with your questioning in a thoughtful and respectful way. Constructive feedback is so important, and there is an art to receiving it in a grounded, healthy manner.
He did not have much of a response. He did not seem to care and that apathy spoke very loud to me.
Yes, Paul went from post-modern environmentalism, gave up on it 10 years ago with his "Dark Ecology", and has now concluded everything went off the rails with the Enlightenment - reason and rationality and what we now really need is the church of traditionalism. His short summation of the way forward is place, people, prayer. Those are fine, but they will at best, form a small community, now if these can convene all around the world, then we've got it licked.
The question is basically how can we reach the masses with the experiences necessary to change their way of thinking to one of synergy and co-creation with all of humanity.
In your book "Recapture the Rapture" you already wrote about the type of communities we need in order for that to happen. Though creating those communities is hard work. I´ve lost most of my friends after reading your book. And now I´m with two friends who are into that, but it´s really hard to get momentum.
Thanks for this wonderful piece :) Keep up the great work. Your book was definitely a game-changer.
curious as to why reading that prompted the loss of friends?
I´ve tried to bring the ideas of the book into the "tribe" I had back then. This made me realise that we have completely different perspectives (e.g. the meaning of life) and willingness to explore the space you talk about. It wasn´t nearly as strong of a bond as I believed we had.
Like you talk about this space of emergence (and growth), where there are no rules and basically anything can happen - including triggers. I always expressed it when it felt "fake" to me, when it felt like we are just letting the cultural imprint take charge. My friends preferred a space of "harmony", which I didn´t really feel with them, there was so much emerging inside of me which didn´t seem to have a place within the group. So I kind of became the black sheep in the group and got ostracized.
It´s definitely not your books fault. It was either the way I tried to bring in those ideas or simply the fact that the ones I called my friends where at a different stage. Your book definitely helped me to find people I can do the stuff from your book with. The sexual yoga of becoming is a game-changer.
Currently working on a project to make some if not all things you talk about in the book "cool" to young people. You´re probably of the biggest influences on everything I wanna do.
I feel you in this. Much resonance all around. A particular passion, and role that I am choosing is to create one of these new ethical cults that @jamie talks about. There is a revolution inside of me, fueled by many of the things that Jamie writes about here. And that many of us are dealing with. I continue to wait and listen, while at the same time being perched and ready with the gifting that I contain, and the passion in my bones, and a song in my heart. The Revolution I’m bringing is a bit ooey and gooey and chewy; and I do not want to simply wait on the sidelines until I think it will be perfect. I do not want to rush in where fools fear to tread, and at the same time I listen every day to my own intuition and as best I can, to the soul song of the Earth around me.
In my own writing here, under the topic of regenerative intimacy, I try to touch on some of these things and my own poetic way, trying to bring resonance if not sense, to the broth in the cauldron in which we are seeping.
Thank you for your words here. I would be happy to connect regarding some of these topics, especially in the recapture the rapture book, as I dream and act. Communication on this particular platform is not great. My number is +17152206122. I welcome such connection, should you have interest.
Obligate adaptation indeed! Simple minds like simple solutions and hardcore egos never think outside the box of their own fixed tribal identifications. I’m traveling around Provence at the moment with my wife and we were approached by a Frenchman at a restaurant who wanted to share his political views with us Americans. He wasn’t a big Trump fan but he was certain that Biden was a puppet of Obama who is secretly controlling the entire agenda of the Dems. This guys main concerns centered around excessive immigration which he said were as damaging in France as in the US.
The principal lesson or “obligate adaptation” of this time is simply that we are ALL in the same boat and must create a truly global cooperative order if we are to survive and overcome the critical social, economic and environmental crisis’ that we have created. Instead of trying to blame “the other” with cockamamie conspiracy theories to perpetuate the entirety obsolete social-political games that you have outlined so well in your other posts.
Oh so the solution to not shuffling off the mortal coil of humanity is to come together? Like some big collective John Lennon pide piper moment? When have we ever in the history of humans done than?
At this stage what I observe is the inevitable move towards a chrysalis moment of transformation where humans emerge out into the world a new species. Humanoid AI connected to the cloud transporting our consciousness to the vast outer reaches of space, wanting our tribe to get there first, because if we don’t they will, and we want to be calling the shots when we get there.
Or I just convert full time to Catholicism and rest back into the bliss of service at a local level and sigh “I am enough”.
digital narcissism hits the mark
So interesting and thought provoking!
I must have read this wrong because I thought OA was a good thing that led us to evolve as humans walking and growing food and expanding in new ways. So I was wondering if the new thing that was being asked of us humans was to eat dinner with our family, do ethical cult-building, enjoy and care for nature, and simply love and live life. This seemed to me to be the new option rather than simply following the masses and collective.
I often think of the butterfly before it flies, all mixed up in the soup of imaginal cells. Somehow it becomes a new thing. I see humanity in this soup today, all mixed up in a mess of seemingly chaotic disasters, trauma, fear, and confusion. And I sense we will fly or become something new in the end of whatever change we are going thru.
But what if this is simply evolution at work and we are asked to step out and away into the savanna or to plant some seeds for our loved ones.
What if we cannot educate the masses, fix the messes, or change the collective trajectory? Maybe this old way is moving toward the dust heap of history as you said, Jamie.
What if our task is really to come home to Self and loved ones and connect on a deeper level?
to evolve to the next iteration?
Hey Jamie. Here’s something else I’ve been working on. It’s a tall drink of water,so be forewarned. I’m wondering if you have an appreciation for it, regardless of whether you’re drawn to it at all. I would value your thoughts
https://open.substack.com/pub/regenerativeintimacy/p/the-sacred-intimate-brotherhood-and?r=x07rn&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
“I don’t get mine until you get yours” this statement guides our actions over at Save A Warrior. We are carving our own microcosm of the type of behaviours that might takes us all back from the edge, but quite honestly we make sure we are first fit for service first. What’s the adage? Clean up, grow up show up? I remember you talking about this Jamie a while back.
Never loose hope. Avoid the Nihilism pits, as tempting as they are to look at (like a car crash), and never forget the cosmic joke, this has all played out before a thousand times, we just suffer from cosmic amnesia, I guess?
We just need a new world order (the nice kind) one where everyone can trust each other. Probably involves magic.
increasing amounts of magic appear to be indicated ;)
*murmurs* magic *sneeze* AI *adjusting collar* synchronicity? *smizes* FRACTALS
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It will make sense when you ask a model in... A few months?
Examples and object lessons abound. Here's one: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/07/phoenix-climate-drought-republican-politics/678494/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
understandably written and so i posted a link on my facebook. thank you