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Scott's avatar

I came across you on a free fall. While you are way more educated and articulate than I am, I get it, me too, So good to know I am not alone, that I am not the crazy one. Wouldn't it be nice if team human was a team thats end goal was for everyone to win. Every player was commited to being 1% better everyday. Every team member helped their brothers and sisters to reach that 1% goal. Every team member knew that that the work was hard, and the future was unpredictable, but they all had faith that the were doing the right thing for the right reasons. And every day individually and collective they re- evaluated the definition of the right thing, and the right reasons.

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David Simon's avatar

What a ride, what a rush 😉.   Just a wee bit of reflection if I may sir Jamie.  

Anyone with the least bit of self-awareness should be able to recognize and acknowledge the destructive stupidity of becoming self-righteously bound up in the conventional mind of Consensus, or tribal, Reality. In times of fear and confusion human primates flock to authoritarian leaders, default to tribal tropes and the comfort of conventional beliefs and cultic associations. Humankind obviously needs to out-grow such childish motives and masks, and learn to think outside the box/bucket of merely social-political-religious conventions if we are to get our collective shite together.  

But, respectfully, I must say that virtually none of the innovative thinkers, seekers, and glorious pontificators ever really get beyond a rather idealistic and self-based “solution” or reaction to the root egoic problem of Consensus-Reality bondage. In other words, there is an obvious and very useful distinction between your ontological buckets 1 and 2, but I would suggest that the distinctions that you make between buckets 2, 3, and 4 don’t really get to the “answer” or Realization that they seem to seek and suggest.

What about the “Mighty Monad” that Shines Prior to all ecstatic experiences of temporary absorptive Oneness? The crucial thing to understand is that all the higher/deeper “levels of Reality” that you are describing are really variations on the same kind of “conventional meditation”.  “Conventional meditation” can lead to an infinite variety of far-out experiences but it never fully and finally transcend the ego-mind of separateness. As explained by my Teacher:  

“Conventional meditation is a matter of getting attention absorbed in something, getting it absorbed in one kind of an object or another. Absorptive meditation is not real meditation. Absorptive meditation is beginner’s meditation, it is egoic meditation. It is the ego, or attention, getting absorbed in something, distracted from itself, and yet not ultimately transcending itself.”

Let us not forget, ignore, or neglect the Magnificent Monad; the ultimate point, purpose, and Happiness that completely transcends all the ego-based buckets, or Levels of Reality. The problem with making too much hay about the in-depth experiential potentials of the body-mind is that they always fall short of the ultimate point, purpose, and happiness of Existence which cannot be attained through ego-efforts of any kind.

Until this is really understood we will continue to be ensnared in our willful adventures of bucketing and unbucketing, that only seem to lead elsewhere but always return us back to ourselves. No matter how hard you try and how high you fly you cannot “take heaven by storm”. Icarus comes to mind.

Let us not confuse, conflate, or negate the Divine heart of Reality in the gobsmacking slurry of the countless buckets and higher states of our experiential possibilities. To do so is to remain fixed and fascinated in all the karmic and dharmic possibilities of cosmic wandering and to never find your way back Home.  

Peace out,

David

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