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Trey Scott's avatar

So appreciative of your deep dive here Jamie and sobering review of these arcs of recent history, especially as a US born citizen who suspects much of these “obligate adaptations’ have flown by unnoticed while on horseback, train, plane and EV fueled vehicles - many thanks for the thoughtful articulations. You deliver consistently. As for that race to the cliff’s edge it may indeed be a time to pump the brakes, put it in park and get out of the vehicle, even if the Car Play AI says there’s nothing to do here. It may not even be about the cliff or reach anymore…but rather the stars overhead and the dirt underneath. There’s an invitation in this race across the desert to pause and listen. And then ask ourselves…what really matters? That we get back into the car? That we try to make a landing? Or maybe, in spite of this evolved “centaur” status and a potential future of “genetic pruning and neural implanting” that we walk for awhile and just listen...to one another. And give what really matters a chance to be heard…we might discover it has nothing to do with that vehicle or cliff...and more to do with that fire in the distance where people are signing together. Naive perhaps but their is wisdom in that circle that deserves to be heard...right now.

Julian Norris's avatar

Self-identified complexity geek here who spent my life exploring the interplay between consciousness, culture and ecology and thinking about the transition between civilizational arcs – and had the great good fortune to spend considerable time in the 80’s and 90’s as a guest in Lakota communities.

It's been a really engaging series and the pattern dynamics you’re describing are both recursive (Romans/Gauls, British Empire/Mughal India etc.) and vividly relevant for understanding the current moment (China + AI + renewables + automation + long-term systems mindset vs US + fossil + legacy manufacturing + increasingly short-term atomized mindset). So many rich and unsettling themes. What it really takes as a culture/civilization to respond to adaptive challenges and existential threats. The paradox of behaviours that are both adaptively successful in the short/medium term while sowing the seeds of long-term disintegration. The mystery of being insider participants in evolution's game while holding outsider conscious awareness and agency.

Here’s a question: Is the obligate adaptation framework deterministic? The Mongols temporarily reversed the energy density hierarchy through superior organization. Japan (Meiji Restoration) chose obligate adaptation pre-emptively. Are there conditions where consciousness + foresight + a certain cultural cohesion/nimbleness can actually break the pattern, or does every apparent exception just prove the rule on a longer timescale?

Great read! I’d buy the book for sure – and put it on my student reading lists

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